> I'd be very surprised if you can show loop efficiencies high enough to no=
t
> swamp any win you get by running the engine at a more efficient operating
> point.

It is "just possible" that what some may be trying to do is to make
use of mechanical energy which "becomes surplus" during some operating
conditions'. Braking would be one such. The pretty glowing brake disks
in formula one cars demonstrate how much unwanted  energy can be on
hand in extreme situations and recovery of a lesser amount in more
mundane systems MAY be useful.

While I have little doubt that a fair few of the people who try to
achieve energy recovery using alternator systems have little grasp of
the overall energy balance, it is entirely conceivable that the
alternator could happily be used as part of a regenerative braking
system. Power levels are liable to be modest unless the alternator was
vastly oversized for the task.

> Unless you can provide some hard numbers and evidence you actually
> understand what's going on, I have to conclude you're just chasing anothe=
r
> perptual motion machine.

Why? Hard or even semi hard concepts should be enough. No?

> > I think you are stressed a little bit, a slim blunt can make your
> > day! Also you can ask Colin for a sniff (if he is into sharing, which
> > I doubt in your case).

> I have no idea what this babble is supposed to mean.

I don't understand it precisely, but having "no idea" suggests a lack of ef=
fort.

I suggest you start with working hypotheses of 'long black" and "deep
toke"  and see if you may be able to Mentat it from there. Maybe not.

BUT  " ...this babble ..."
a it is inconceivable that the knowledge of and awareness of the
implications of how "English as a second language" apply here, that's
pretty unacceptable. No?

And, given what has been said here in the immediate past about who is
doing what, and various other interesting things

> However, it would be a
> good idea for those that aren't too swift with physics to refrain from
> trying to explain it to others.

is both a long bow to draw, a considered (probably)  insult
(certainly) and arguably beneath even you. (Was that considered enough
? :-) ).

It's worth notong that those who ARE too swift with Physics may be  in
evidence here :-)

Trying just a tiny bit harder may be wise.


 Russell
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