I remember the old times when I turned on the AC in my car to save fuel, bu= t since than I reached the age of reason... The only way this hydrogen fiasco could work is to attach a huge windmill o= n the car but than again the added resistance would decrease the mileage pr= obably... or maybe when going downhill... but that would be gravity doing t= he job. So why not attach a giant sail=A0 of the top of the car and use wind power = (ofc only when the wind direction if favorable). Anyway, I'm gonna go on Saturday visit the Carl Benz museum and see how peo= ple traveled in a more simple and maybe more civilized time :)=20 =A0 --- On Thu, 1/27/11, Bob Blick wrote: From: Bob Blick Subject: Re: [OT] 125 years of the Automobile To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." Date: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 8:23 PM On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:24:06 +0200, "Yigit Turgut" said: > What makes you say that I do not see any inconsistency. A friend of mine > applied this system (not the one on the link, but the same principle just > a > different vendor) and there is significant difference. Only problem is > that > it runs out very quickly thats why it is not the main fuel for combustion > - > a supplementary=A0 to your current system. >=20 > If you can explain why you think that way maybe you can enlighten us all. > > > > >=A0 http://www.hydrogen-fuel.ca/ There is no way to prove this works - probably because it doesn't work. I doubt anyone with a scientific background would honestly say it has any chance of working.=20 Testimonies of users of these systems is not enough to convince me. It is driving style and traffic patterns that change. I have recorded the fuel efficiency for several years of a vehicle that has no variation in its use, yet the fuel economy varies + and - 15% because of my driving style. 39.46 mpg average, 33.19 minimum, 46.84 maximum. Calculated per tank since 2006 over the same daily commute. The seasonal variation in fuel is also another factor that influences fuel economy. Both diesel and gasoline are blended differently to match the seasonal temperature changes. And consuming an extra 30 to 50 amps of current does use power from the engine, and that does use more fuel, even if it is only a few percent. So any benefit from burning hydrogen is lost by the power used to separate it from water. Best regards, Bob --=20 http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .