> Now imagine a plane that instead of wings has long rotating cylinders, wi= th > the rotation axis along the length of these cylenders, which is left to > right with respect to the plane. Small lateral grooves in the cylinders > would probably help, just like a baseball pitcher gets different effects > depending on how he orients the spin axis relative to the laces (laces ar= e > roughness and more laces around the equator makes a stronger lift effect)= .. Or dimples on a golf ball - another example of how a modification to someth= ing makes it fly further. IIRC the dimples on a golf ball were another of Barnes-Wallis' ideas (him o= f the Dam Busters bouncing bomb). --=20 Scanned by iCritical. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .