> I believe in days of Flying boats (from Foynes down the road here on the Shannon Estuary) across the Atlantic that it the weather was good they did fly close to sea to get "ground effect" and save fuel... That's interesting. Any idea where you ran across this? Jack --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .