On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 23:25 -0800, Bob Blick wrote: > On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:14:54 -0500, "Herbert Graf" said: >=20 > > and I'd like you to show me where I even inferred I would "cheer" if > > someone was taken in by that product? >=20 > You said they'd deserve to be fleeced if they were taken in by the > product's marketing, or something very close to that with those words. > You didn't say "cheer". I'm sorry I took liberties with your > expressions. Saying they deserved it implies that it's the right > outcome. Bob, you are bending my words to further your argument and malign me, I don't appreciate that, and I won't stand for it, and I do not react well to this sort of game play. My words were: When I'm considering a product I don't for one second rely exclusively on the claims the marketing material has. IMHO, anyone who does so deserves to be fleeced once in a while. So, what I'm saying since obviously letting people understand what I say once isn't enough in this case: is that if someone relies exclusively on the marketing material released by the vendor, that the person who falls for the marketing material deserves to be fleeced once in a while. This is VERY far from "cheering" that someone is fleeced. This is very far from hoping people get fleeced. This is stating that someone who does ZERO research and ONLY reads what the marketing material states "deserves to be fleeced once in a while". My intent with this statement, as later clarified, is it's better for society that a person is allowed to make a mistake, since that is a mechanism that most humans learn best by. > Having a business model that relies on tricking people with lies like > that is not good. I hope you can agree with me on that. With regards to "a business model that relies on tricking people with lies", whether I think it's "good" or not isn't black and white. The point I've made MANY times is that what is "tricking people" varies depending on who you ask.=20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .