Hi all, I have a large outdoor fish pond (and a typo I just did, a fish pong, which it does if you stir it up) that gets a lot of sun, so made an algae killer with a 10W UV-C germicidal lamp http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18683201/UV-C_algae_killer.jpg (very reminiscent at night of Mr Burns in The Springfield Files. Maybe I should call it Burnsy) As you can see, it will turn pea soup into clear water by giving algae the Sunburn From Hell, which causes it to clump in fluffy bits about 1mm big. That is the brown muck which accumulates and needs flushing out. It's pretty 'sticky' too and gradually coats anything it comes in contact with During the day the pond is murky because of this dead algae generally scattering sunlight, but a night flash shows that the water itself is pretty clear. Water is about 80cm deep http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18683201/day_night.jpg So I was looking around and found this site http://www.simplecentrifuge.com/gallery-series-17.html A high-speed centrifuge seems to a fairly good job of removing the very light live algae, so it should be at least as good with these bigger particles The question is though that some manual effort seems needed to periodically remove the sludge and I'm wondering if anyone has seen an automatic method that could be built at home. I don't really have room for a settling tank, and have to keep the health of the fish in mind too of course Any thoughts or suggestions appreciated I've thought about trying back-flushing, electrostatics (could that be done in water ?), gravity, but not filtering. Filters clog quickly and are just too high-maintenance Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .