On 15/01/2011 22:16, IVP wrote: > As Michael said, toner is basically plastic and soot. There will > be a few formulations which are profitable, and probably also > therefore quite generic in bulk that will be used in the cartridges > of many printer manufacturers > > It might be that generally toner is pretty good but the printer > is the built-by-accountants weak link, which is why results > could be variable across brands That sounds like pretty fair reasoning, and along the lines of what I=20 thought might be the case in general, I was mainly wondering what might=20 be different about Brother printers (i.e. the printers rather than the=20 ink) to cause them to be singled out (which Kerry has now explained) For me, I never got into the toner transfer method, tried it a few times=20 ages ago then moved on to UV, and for me this works pretty flawlessly in=20 that no pitch/package is really a problem. Also, with the UV box and=20 etch tank the process is a bit less "fussy" and more reproducible IMHO=20 (no scrubbing/soaking/ironing board etc, just UV, develop and chuck in=20 tank - though this is a very debatable point I'm sure many would=20 disagree with.. :-) ) I think the toner method seems fine though for all but the smallest=20 detail, and is probably a bit cheaper too (both in equipment and=20 expendables), so there is not much either way, just whatever works best=20 for you, which of course (as Kerry also mentioned) is the important thing. My goal with the whole thing was never really to save money, just time=20 when prototyping (which it does very well when the need arises) but=20 everyone who "rolls their own" is going to have slightly different=20 motivations. P.S. Very interested in how it goes with the Riston film - keep us=20 posted there.. :-) --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .