peter green wrote: > Sorry reposting with tag, I think EE is the best fit though PIC could als= o=20 > cover it. > > Most of my previous PIC designs were through hole and I just put the > crystal on the top and the tracks on the bottom meaning no possibility > of a short even if the board is not soldermasked or the soldermask gets > damaged (I don't like to rely on soldermask). > > I have a design with a 4MHz crystal (I could change to a 16MHz crystal > and disable the PLL but i'd rather not) and a 44 pin TQFP pic. Currently= =20 > I am > using a through hole HC49/S crystal mounted on the bottom. This works > fine and uses a crystal style that is readilly availiable but having > just one component on the bottom seems plain weird and I could imagine > it confusing those who will be doing the assembly. I dont want to put it > on top because of the aforementioned risk of shorts if there is any > issue with the soldermask. > > So I went looking for SMT 4MHz crystals on farnell and was surprised at > how poor the range was. There were a number of what appear to be HC49/S > crystals on SMT mounting plates but they take up a lot of board area > (they would take up more top side area than the current soloution of a > TH crystal on the bottom). There are also a few other packages but they > don't appear to be much smaller and they all appear to be manufacturer > specific. Checking RS and mouser gave much the same. > > I'd like to know what others here do for crystals with SMT PICs We changed to a 16MHz crystal (from an 8Mhz) precisely for this reason: you= =20 get more choices, and can generally find an inexpensive option. Vitaliy=20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .