--_003_005401cbb2a3c485d670834a65daivp1_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I would like to achieve is 0.5 sec over 8 hours or roughly 17 ppm > over a temperature range of -20 C to +40 C If you assume, not unreasonably, that the chip out of a "kitchen" clock is good to ~ 1 minute/year, that's around 2ppm. I use them as the timebase in many projects. You won't find better performance cheaper Attached is a snippet from an old application. '1' and '2' are where the coil used to attach. These are reciprocating lines, ie 0.5Hz AC, to reverse the polarity of the coil each second (kitchen clocks are magnetic drive). Take one for 0.5Hz or both for 1Hz Nominal supply is a 1.5V AA, and they use only a few 10's of nA. I've not tried a temperature range test but that should be easy to do. Synchronise any two clocks and put the one you want to pinch the chip out of in the freezer If there is a significant difference I'm sure that temperature logging could be used for compensation. Either that or provide a small local heater - eg resistor - for the chip or whatever oscillator you eventually use Joe= --_003_005401cbb2a3c485d670834a65daivp1_ Content-Type: image/gif; name="kitchen_clock_pic.gif" Content-Description: kitchen_clock_pic.gif Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="kitchen_clock_pic.gif"; size=2900; creation-date="Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:02:24 GMT"; modification-date="Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:02:24 GMT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 R0lGODlhNQE0AYAAAAAAAP///ywAAAAANQE0AQAC/oyPqcvtD6OctNqLs968+w+G4kiW5omm6sq2 7gvH8kzX9o3n+s73/g8MCofEovGITCqXzKbzCY1Kp9Sq9YrNarfcrvcLDovHWIDZLAEg1Iezgd0O nOFvtIJewTPU+rdm3uYmt+ZHticoB1jH1rdB10gYGOeHxzc5WHhZwnjnGPeImQmpSEUqmjkIZxkC iqq5msBZCDoaaJfIqciHKKi6hrbai1v52fm60Co1dxuaSui7+7HsaxwZe9oMWw39GexMWezKKJvq fTlunV2t6TR9S7scGt3892xKj097XHvKjWlJDRC1SQPNPUJUB1UydsPcOXwIMaLEiRP3RRLIEEOy /j56iD2zuOecvH/g/H2jR84fOXwfj117+QOhA4cgxY3ssBHZOo7WCvYM9y3XSHQDZ4mUtVDdQp4Z eUBCFk+k0m6uMkSduc3UQWa4YAa0g/Qk0ZsEf4VVF4uXzEb3YuZZqzYupacn6IqwKw0HXiJ7rfT1 8NeqXmWGChtOczixYpiLGxcO7DjyA1JXZcqALDnzNoVkZ2DWDHoq0HGfcYY+TQEeRnBVVZRG7Vgf wV6WXcO+jRUoys4tXuM+HLBlUN+efhsfZuudcpYXtmpLdzx6DGZJW0u/brsoSevYu6NQJUy79/Hf dXIlTj49BJ7P0at/v7nkOvj069kyyri+/vL7/vvX9Q8gCe4FSCB3BR6YB4IK2rdggxMM6KB+EEZI 34QUvmfhhellqKF3XHXoBUUijkgiiGJwKA2KJgKhImArgtGiaS+GyOKMNLplIxcxcrBjjjf0yKCP ZdQoZBZABllkKUIcmaQLTGrUpF8sCGPWfFFGAaRJnT155ZQvmCNVl0o6eZJLYhLWW0L5MXemEkxq yVabUBwpG5t2ysnXCvHk0haXeI7gZ2p/tnPfYIM2kdKPhxK65mWLMnGQDoFGSNqHXjbq6KNpeDSd lZ5pGkF7i7yJjaKgToYWb/8tIumpueVk4F1EugoVlaWmMClitOaW6l4k/kqRbbs2UJR4IWXK/t+w q3YqIETKAvrps4hGu8k00u7UHLXXwlBdqNpWmyul0OnK7Lbcjustsub+AaxzJaq7LpQWdLvet/HO m21TqMJ7b4L46htfuf3+62+skhi87MAF/2dsoXgFFm6XdOqrJbEL36kwwnlZ1xGrHq/EayIZ16tn Ux2bBNCDuo08qjvLxnlNxZZazBrLNTR88srPvapxvC5fqpN8Naes61U22/AUlXJtRzLAI9eW7Lno Hs1vmlT3kCuwV5dcdchbm5D1xV8LaO++Y4PtoqeY0nz2Jmmv7bTabWv0TkiULQdLMJZCPPfbIEsi FGvAFCMe332D8Dd+eQ9FeJ9iH24fzIGL/sV40o9Dni9zYamkN+Vwt2zts/RCa7LieCekN1Ntj87K 51HPFLq0rKdoq9SrT/06mQ/OnGS77vrebtm7Yja7213TSjzuCX9pbvJxk328q8733Hr0p0Ysr8Ci JxH2tthnbrvs3AuPvKANaa/7tX2dZ33uw/q6G3J6Ak8/1OV7CyvGmOfwMGe37j8r2NWuYQDcwV+K 9bwC3sx8vVJgEL7nQK5FcAsQnKD7LDgmMmzFYfeqILd8UjGVQYdTGvIgmUAYDsOxg4QXMiHz+kG4 zIHnHzsTlyFQOJfsIaVzIGoRC1koQZSVCXRrIcvieri8H9pOiDX0WCdwqL8CxaggnfPT/gY/xh3L zYaGJppiWUSGDkh5bXBg7CKujKiqI7iwO755SMyOkkAcaco99msFGXknLNfpUWIbOxbgUOcoYqxv jdgZECHT8jM0EjF2c3xbAO32RtjdrzgPTJceD5kZAhpySS8rUt2C1sdWUS9feCzhTYp3uZsR0EVN XBGcqveTTq1SRlGk0Az3aMmD1RJas+RRHG04xF2ybTSjlFEvKYnJxYRQmH78CZei4sNfOig4cmPg ObrHzIIlEzebdCayogmqCeUEe+B8lDi9UsxN1W+dFeEj4qb0yUc2qZt5TJwB24SeQNlTlGKio9S2 uc1MhrKenDwTPfOYzRf2c6BJrNKo/pJjtVqxLzkbKeVxDloXXUiFmunDVs3EkagNpYhZglwZ0Dw6 RNkE1E20Y6fWWAIN+xlPonUjYepWagRD6lMUwLAMqZoZUmwEdTwYtVpJm3lGoLasJ6tJqGaKCjSO /u+CognTF50qUEd2lBd3sKisDlE7VYEHp0WAqgTl6E5ftg9p+KQl+pzSVkqudYEGletcaUDWxkDs mAj1QV6V+ZZ0zlSOMjVjalp5vkLJbxZtqaah+PrQA+2VLna8qi4RBlDHvuSvT9hr04KZM+VJU2Be vQiCSqsmAbqhI1xFJVZPmk7OtuOlIUMsmKL4TOVMNB/gCxBqRWa2YNojrF5LKtNu/nnc9QDRP54N bqIQ2LOfEtNzXVFuPAk02cloRbfoJFdfhZpG6672tIGtoHRXqzSKunS99NNRYF8Ly762R6Pz2pN1 2SXbwYYKslSdqT35C1HMqlUxbWSrk64by/c+jzgrha7/mKo6weC1oAMuLsFYhNwMVyKoiSTlW+9p TAunkn+MI8nkgsIQOv42vn5NmxaRRNjtaKNOPl0xWD/Mz+K8WMIUFspKqKmdwu7XxgyFK05kyuA8 GWUXXF1qsRrbW9hiTcoXnhVyU3VVd2mVyiD+bpVjbCbeOrEhRNasfqd81uw9hpE87miL0xzlx7wz fG/28ohPNGeF4jcl1Inzmd+S/l/obRnOMkwucO/MYkCXWUpFtrM2QZvNidHNaDfMs5t1KNxIc3nI UA4DhHbKo/Ag1bv91S6lNWjpiCKpidMzbn1PPYZP49iahtY0oXcn5BsN2tG0HqtoR708QAMWMKCW Z6m5yd5ZG+rWlCo2WhdGXMECyNl1VvAyA01BZTOGNtxe6mJFjCocAti+Zr4NtSUJwwSHF9jk4sZy gwtKD2n7ozo7lgoJFtN4W5I0+DFORDat77mABSFjhR+mhYbLEjsD24Y5oDE4Zaz+HXzh7AblfNnI Zld/ljdS/bVTr/g3h9MbsZ60ZlKkekxJi5ByJIdNrknX7qYqdsMG1/i+sQjf/mlSONg2yyyvB+bz n3dw58dGdMkryWw1x9XYfzY1TxfdoaDb3GyLYzhwiM5zXlV9UFIvujfp3btod3nqWuei1T2d8Lu6 VZ1/hLqCOoZ0oSuLMlhHW8+lrWqviy8buvV13rPuvSwLHsAV1vvwPnnU+CX9q6qlKAfjqrp3N13Q bPuxwqPD3uDJo6e7XXyisUXjcix0NxH2vCOcBXpyiz7nkt1ouRlv4I9Wat02uiJKOk15cHW6TqQf rS177PYBWz7frJdiQQnP9sZ7u7rzuJLPkR/BoL8cg75/IfQd+PzqY//42leg9IMPwK5T3+iq/NX4 WxMX13a14Ipl5tlbGJ+v/RRa4YR//+9HWLkqb32qG7fgcn3yOEJUTPYHTE/3bZDha/RFexXnfflR QwgYSWECgecHd0zjcfHXXe53fjCFYILVZA41gBsofv03QSMIb/6XeSloYwQ4I9K1axuId352WG4E g7PhRbBWg6Zxfd5VGh2Wgy0XSiwoPd8maAwGfn1zRP6Vg26zg+kihOXThCTzhENYXXY3hdfzd0sI e2SnhY02eV24doYHhuTnhWNoV7o3fWaYS/Hlg2oIY1uGg24og28Yh3JIhvjjFUdoh59mU3ooh3xY OHZYhoLxO1cYToACM4JYeMT2IYZIhaaniCRod5H4hpNIiUonhlVQAAAAOw== --_003_005401cbb2a3c485d670834a65daivp1_ Content-Type: text/plain; name="ATT00001.txt" Content-Description: ATT00001.txt Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATT00001.txt"; size=208; creation-date="Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:02:24 GMT"; modification-date="Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:02:24 GMT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 LS0gDQpodHRwOi8vd3d3LnBpY2xpc3QuY29tIFBJQy9TWCBGQVEgJiBsaXN0IGFyY2hpdmUNClZp ZXcvY2hhbmdlIHlvdXIgbWVtYmVyc2hpcCBvcHRpb25zIGF0DQpodHRwOi8vbWFpbG1hbi5taXQu ZWR1L21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vcGljbGlzdA0K --_003_005401cbb2a3c485d670834a65daivp1_-- .