Good point Bob, but I think it can be allowed to run a while yet and see how it goes. I agree that such subjects are potentially risky, as I also noted. And yes, Olin could have been more sensitive, even though obviously joking, but no harm done I think. R --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .