A lot of great suggestions, thank you! >The through-hole crystal is on the top side (where there is no copper) so = this >is not a problem, right? Ordering SMD crystals didn't even cross my mind when I was getting the capacitors and resistors. I guess just I thought of a crystal as being a "through hole part", but really, there's probably an SMD equivalent for every through hole part, isn't there.. >I would maybe make your pad rings a bit thicker Are you talking about the pads for the crystal, or *all* of the pads on the board? I just changed the crystal's pads (which were pretty thin..) to be like most of the others. I'm not sure if I can make the ..1" spaced pads larger, though, because then there won't be much room in between them. >If using a simple pin header for power, I always make it 3 pins (one end >pin no-connect) so that reversal does not result in a connection. That's a really good idea! >As I said before, I would arrange the pads so that one or more (ICD) board >connectors could be used instead of soldering single wires to the board - = they >have a tendency to break when wiggled a couple of times. There aren't going to be any wires soldered directly to the board. I'm planning on using female break away headers for all of the I/O pins, like these: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/115 . And then Male headers for the ICSP connector, and I guess for the power pins, like this: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/116 . Somebody (or maybe a couple of people) mentioned that it would be a good idea to have the option of powering the board from USB, and also that having the USB voltage pin tied to a sense pin could be useful. I tried adding two jumpers to accommodate this: http://www.roboticsguy.com/images/misc/4550_SMD_pcb2.png I highlighted the VDD traces. Is it alright to weave the VDD trace between C3's (1206 package) pads? It looks like there's enough room, both on the computer and on a paper printout, but I don't know if it's generally an acceptable practice? Also, I made the VDD and GND traces 0.03" for much of the board, but will 0.02" be wide enough for the VDD trace coming off the USB connector? I tried following this image for the sense pin: http://www.roboticsguy.com/images/misc/figure_17_11.png . The routing looks a little odd, but I think it's the way the image shows it. So, if this is works, I would be able to use jumper #1 to choose whether or not I want to use an I/O pin on the PIC as a sense pin, and #2 to power the board off of USB. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .