On 03/01/2011 13:21, Olin Lathrop wrote: > Oli Glaser wrote: >> > Can't see any "production" programmers cheaper than the >> > ICD3 though. > I just checked, and the ICD3 is $190 on microchipdirect. My USBProg2 > (http://www.embedinc.com/products/usbprog2) is only $125, and is definite= ly > a production programmer. > Sorry, didn't see that - I meant on the MC site, where I could only see=20 the LProg (which said it's just for the 3.3V parts IIRC) Didn't see the USBProg2 on there, or any other of your programmers,=20 maybe I was looking in the wrong place though. Looks like a good option=20 (USBProg2) then if the OP wants cheap production programming without=20 paying extra for other stuff like debug etc - an extra ground wire=20 between PGC and PGD is definitely a good idea. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .