Byron Jeff wrote: >>> I cannot think of a device that can run >>> the USB protocol, and is readily available, other than USB to serial >>> cables. >> >> You mean other than the LProg ;-) > > When LProg can program 16F193X parts (along with the absolutely > totally cool 12F1822. Man I cannot wait for these to get into full > production), then we'll talk. What I meant is that the LProg is a "readily available device that can run the USB protocol". It is not much differently priced than USB to serial converters, but allows direct control over individual data line transitions= .. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .