On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 12:23:19PM -0500, Olin Lathrop wrote: > Byron Jeff wrote: > > OK Olin, I'm finally going to plead ignorance. When I used ICSP a > > while > > ago, I never connected anything to PGC and PGD so I could run my > > application while the programmer is still connected. >=20 > I do that routinely too. My programmers can deliberately be put in a hig= h > impedence state so that they don't conflict with most target circuits. >=20 > > I cannot think of a device that can run > > the USB protocol, and is readily available, other than USB to serial > > cables. >=20 > You mean other than the LProg ;-) When LProg can program 16F193X parts (along with the absolutely totally cool 12F1822. Man I cannot wait for these to get into full production), then we'll talk. BAJ --=20 Byron A. Jeff Department Chair: IT/CS/CNET College of Information and Mathematical Sciences Clayton State University http://cims.clayton.edu/bjeff --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .