Byron Jeff wrote: > OK Olin, I'm finally going to plead ignorance. When I used ICSP a > while > ago, I never connected anything to PGC and PGD so I could run my > application while the programmer is still connected. I do that routinely too. My programmers can deliberately be put in a high impedence state so that they don't conflict with most target circuits. > I cannot think of a device that can run > the USB protocol, and is readily available, other than USB to serial > cables. You mean other than the LProg ;-) ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .