My "production grade" $1Kish Elnec programmer (the us labeled version of=20 the BeeProg+), insists that for many newer parts, alternate voltage=20 verification is not needed, and should be turned off to speed programming..= .. I'd highly recommend anything by Elnec, but it doesn't seem the price is=20 in your range, even for the $290 Pic-only programmer... -forrest On 1/2/2011 1:07 PM, PICdude wrote: > Looked at those -- they seem awesome except for the price, especially > if I am to get at least 2 (if not 3) of these. > > I didn't specify what "decent" price should be, but here's what I > figured... The Pickit2 (which I really like and have a few of) is $35 > and does everything I need currently, except being "production > quality" (which I understand to mean being able to verify at alternate > voltages). Still not convinced I need verification at other voltages > because I only run at 5V regulated, but I figure there must be some > happy median (perhaps a couple/few hundred dollars) between that an > the PM3. I've been using an ICD2 clone for some time, but that's now > dead. > > Sad that the Pickit2 is being phased out. > > Cheers, > -Neil. > > > Quoting Harold Hallikainen: > >> We use several Microchip PM3 programmers. In production, they operate >> stand-alone with code in the SD card. The user just selects the product >> being built and then programs the part. We do a fair amount of SQTP >> programming (for the two LSB of MAC addresses), and these support that. >> They have been very reliable except once when MPLAB wanted to do an upda= te >> and killed the programmer. Microchip replaced it. >> >> Harold > > --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .