> > We looked at this, but we also have to figure in the $0.05/placement co= st, > 5 cents placement cost for a simple 0805 part is out of line. Is that what was actually meant? It would be high in many cases. One in-China manufacturer charges us 1/3 cent per "pin" - a somewhat arbitrary swings-and roundabouts measure that nonetheless dominates the cost of resistors and almost doubles the cost of small transistors. (Resistors cost << 1 cent and installation costs 2/3 cent. BC807 and similar cost about 1.2 cents-ish and installation costs 1 cent. A 14 pin SOIC is a disaster :-). Russell McMahon --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .