> Incorrect information, sloppiness, etc, is going to derail a thread. =A0T= he > best way to get it back on track is NOT by complaining about it and tryin= g > to pretend it's someone else's fault. Ah, now I remember why I signed off the Piclist, a similar diatribe of yours that resulted in James Newton signing off. I love how you work things around, with little phrases like "trying to pretend it's someone else's fault." I don't see that I "complained about it" or tried to "pretend it's someone else's fault".. My mistake, My bad. I posted a correction. Get over it, or don't, you choi= ce. > At this point you need to repair your credibility. I'm sure that this is true, in your not so humble opinion. > =A0Perhaps you could explain what you are trying to accomplish overall in= stead of just posting > requirements. =A0That way maybe we can get some confidence that the > requirements are real and make sense before spending effort on them again= .. Ok, back to the actual problem at hand. I have an existing system using a 2200uF 16V aluminum electrolytic as energy storage, to keep a 3.3V processor running long enough to log some data after the AC input has been removed. This works well enough in the existing product which is designed for in-home use, but I have been asked to redesign into an outdoor environment, and I will not be allowed to use anything other than minimal passive temperature control. I am constrained by space and cost, but cost is moveable within reason, if I can justify the delta. We don't have established environmental specs, which complicates things significantly. So, I am wondering what practical alternatives are available. I haven't seen anything in supercaps yet that works for me, they are still relatively low voltage and high cost, though the capacitance values are impressive. I could maybe justify multiple ceramics, but they have their own issues with temperature extremes. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .