I've been pulling my hair for several hours the past few days out trying to figure out a very low power low voltage shut off circuit. Goal: when the battery voltage (battery voltage is constantly dropping due to usage), reaches a minimum (say, 4.4 V), output a logic low signal/open collector/whatever, which is used to hold a switching supply's SHUTDOWN pin low (so it turns off). I can understand how to do it with a zener diode - just take the signal between the anode and a resistor to ground - when the zener stops "breaking down" (that is, below the zener voltage), line will be pulled low. But I can't find an appropriate zener. Then I came across this: http://archive.electronicdesign.com/files/29/6403/figure_01.gif and discovered the adjustable shunt voltage reference. I searched around and then found this chip and example circuit on the right: http://www.national.com/mpf/LM/LM431.html#Overview I see how they're "adjusting" the device with a resistor divider. Problem i= s - the supply voltage itself (battery voltage) constantly changes. Wouldn't this also cause the resistor divider output to constantly drop, therefore constantly adjusting the "breakdown" voltage as well? How would I go about doing this? --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .