David wrote: >> What pattern are you looking for? In the plane of the board? >> Perpendicular to the board? Something else? > > ... the board will be at 90 degrees with respect to the "floor". But what radiation pattern are you looking for? In the plane of the board? Perpendicular to the board? Something else? Now that you've described the orientation of the board, you could also tell us what radiation pattern you would like from this gizmo mounted on the wall. In any case, please answer the questions asked. Supplying additiona= l information is fine, but it's frustrating to help when you won't provide information specifically asked about. > Perpendicular to the ground plane, radiation for antenna such as a > whip or helical will be away from the ground plane. "Away" from the ground plane is rather ambiguous here. Please be more careful. If you mean perpendicular to the ground plane on the antenna side= , then that's incorrect. Antennas that rely on a ground plane generally radiate parallel to the ground plane, but only in the half-space of the antenna side. There will be some spill to the other half-space, particularly when the ground plane is only a wavelenth or less in extent. > Parallel to the ground plane, radiation will be away from the board > edge and quite directional. There you go again. You really can't discuss this stuff while being sloppy with words and descriptions. Parallel to the ground plane is clear enough, but then you suddenly bring the board into it without specifying how that i= s oriented with respsect to this ground plane or the antenna. Duh. > My assumption is that the whole board > must therefore be oriented at least approximately in the correct > direction. This is getting rediculous. How are we supposed to know what aspect of the "board" you consider its direction. The plane? Perpendicular to a face? And how is all this oriented with respect to the antenna and its ground plane, if your antenna even uses a ground plane? If the board is mounted vertically (parallel to a building wall) and you want to radiate horizontally (to every place on the same floor of the building), then it won't help to try to make a ground plane of part of the board. Probably the best choice is a self-contained (not relying on ground plane) whip oriented vertically extending above or below the board. It would have to contain some reactive elements to achieve resonance or the desired impedence at substantially shorter than 1/2 wavelength. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .