> My ground plane is entirely on the bottom of the board, not the top David, AIUI a ground plane under a PCB trace will short it out at RF frequencies (what a purposely-used ground plane is meant to do) =20 > A PCB antenna or something like this would be great, but if it gets > too confusing I might resort to a piece of wire! I'd be very surpised if you can't get a reliable link to 20m with just about anything - depending on transmission power of course - even an 1/8 wave wire (85mm) Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .