>> Maybe someone that's really really good with homemade PC >> boards can do this, but that's going to take some experience >> and experimenting at best Making the PCB is the easy bit. I can go as small as you like with a Sharpie. SSOP (0.65mm), TQFP (0.8mm) are reasonably routine for me as a lot of ICs are not desirable or available in DIP > It is doable, but painful. QFN is a horrible package to deal with at > home, especially if it's more than 20 pins and tight pitch. Getting > heat to flow under the chip with such thin traces is really hard. Agree. The experimental failure rate is 'off-putting'. I don't even consider QFN at home any more SSOP is about as small as I'm comfortable with for hand-soldering. I've found the best way is to very thinly tin the copper and reflow with the iron. Extra solder can be added, carefully, at a distance and letting it run to the pin, which avoids bridging Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .