On 20/12/10 16:30, William Wilson wrote: > HP sells development kits for most of their cartridges that includes > an ink cartridge, a cartridge holder with standoff screw mounts, > a flex cable connected to the cartridge holder, and the tech sheets for > the cartridge pad connections . > The price is usually around $30 (US), but for some of their older stuff i= t is as low as $10 (US). Sounds like that's exactly what I'm after... > It's a lower price if you order a bunch of them. > Just call HP and tell them you need a development kit for whatever cartri= dge > you want to use. Hmm, apparently they're handled by HP's Specialty Printing Systems=20 branch, and there are a few hoops to jump through before they'll even=20 talk to you... one of which is a $1000 "technology licensing fee." The real gem is the license agreement for this "license": 2.4f: All the grants to Company herein specifically exclude any license=20 to use HP Licensed Patents and HP Confidential Information to make or=20 have made an inkjet printer whose primary function is to imprint=20 variable product data on products, primary and/or intermediate=20 packaging, to imprint variable logistical data on secondary packaging=20 and/or labels intended for package identification [...] So basically you're not allowed to use it to, say, print serial numbers=20 on boxes. I would have thought that'd be the primary use case for these=20 types of printers... Depending on how they choose to interpret the=20 agreement, printing tracking labels (part number, short description,=20 part location ID) on component boxes could well fall foul of that=20 restriction. I get the impression that they don't really want to license this=20 technology, but they're doing it in a half-hearted way to try and gain=20 PR points for "forward thinking". (ROFLMAO). "In the various Hewlett-Packard spinoffs, one constant remained: the HP=20 name always went to the worst part of the company." > There is also a book out called "Inkjet Applications" by Matt Gilliland t= hat uses > the HP 51604a cartridge that will walk you through step by step on how to > program for that cartridge. Yeah, I saw that when Parallax announced the book and matching devkit.=20 IIRC they stopped selling them a while ago. Amazon list it as "out of print, available from Marketplace sellers"...=20 at a price of =A390 a copy! Urrgh! The Thinkjet cartridge specs, BTW, are in a 1970s HP databook. Can't=20 remember off-hand which one, but I've got scans on my PC (somewhere).=20 Full pinouts, specs and mechanical drawings... Thanks, --=20 Phil. piclist@philpem.me.uk http://www.philpem.me.uk/ --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .