> Thought you were supposed to be maintaining decorum, > not stirring the pot.... For stirring I'd maybe have suggested a M381 load (which you say is a shoulder breaker). Maybe a '576? (they don't seem to do rocksalt). Or maybe a M583 to REALLY light up your day? R --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .