Kerry Wentworth wrote: > A digital volt meter can at least tell you if something is being sent, Not neccessarily. The bits go by so fast that the average voltage may not change enough so show up on a voltmeter. If you just want to know something was sent, connect a CAN line to a audio preamp input. Each message should sound something like a click. If you ge= t nothing, then you know the bus lines aren't wiggling at all. Do this test on both of the CAN lines independently to make sure they are both wiggling. Again however, without a 'scope, this is going to be quite a time sink. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .