Imagine you had a thermocouple made of metal X and metal Y, and that=20 metal X had a Seebeck coefficient of 1uV/degree and metal Y had a=20 coefficient of 1.5uV/degree. The coefficient of the XY thermocouple is=20 therefor .5uV per degree. The hot end is at 125 degrees and the cold end is at 25 degrees. You define the cold Y end as 0 volts. The hot Y end is at 150uV. The=20 hot X end must also be at 150uV, since they are connected. The cold X=20 end is at 100uV negative relative to the hot X end, and therefor at=20 +50uV relative to the Y cold end. You have an IC temperature sensor=20 here. You also transition to copper in the PC board traces. The traces=20 make their way across the board, which has a temperature differential=20 that causes the copper to exhibit +10uV difference. The signal from the=20 X hot end is now 60uV, and the signal from the Y cold end is 10uV. The=20 difference is still 50uV, so when you divide the 50uV by .5uV per degree=20 of our XY thermocouple, and add the 25 degrees of the cold junction, you=20 get 125 degrees for the hot end.=20 As long as the X and Y inputs of the A/D are at the same temperature,=20 and the X and Y junctions at the cold junction are the same, they will=20 cancel out. regardless of the temperature difference between the cold=20 junction and the A/D. Kerry Sean Breheny wrote: > Is there really one reference junction, though? I am under the > impression that any joint of dis-similar metals in the thermocouple > circuit will cause a voltage difference which is temperature > dependent. This includes even things like bond wire connections inside > the IC used to read the thermocouple. So, I'm not sure that it makes > sense to couple the cold junction sensor so closely with the TC > connector unless you are also coupling it closely with the rest of the > electronics in the circuit which reads the TC. > > I am speaking as a heavy user of TCs who has never designed a circuit > to interface with them so perhaps someone with more experience here > can chime in. > > Sean > =20 --=20 Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 267.11.13 - Release Date: 10/6/05 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .