Tamas Rudnai wrote: > As far as I understood solarwind does not want to put a dc-dc in his > application, and that's where all the problems occur. In other words > he cannot guarantee stable USB voltage level, But the point is he can well enough. Four NiMH batteries will produce righ= t around 5V when full. At 1.05V per cell the voltage drops to 4.2V, which is just a fraction below the minimum USB voltage. Since Apple is drawing higher than normal currents, they have to be prepared for a larger cable drop, so most likely the phone will still charge at 4.2V and a bit lower. At 1.05V there is still some capacity left in a NiMH cell, but a good fraction has been used. Also the phone will likely charge with a bit lower= .. A simple test with a variable power supply would confirm this, but the OP i= s stubbornly refusing to do that. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .