RussellMc wrote: > So at 4.8V battery voltage you get about 4.4V available for LiIon > charging (enough) but you hit 4.2V for LiIon at about 4.6V battery =3D > 1.15 cell, which the eneloop graph says is well up the discharge curve > - perhsp 80% - 90% of total capacity, which is highly commendable. I think the characteristics of LiIon have nothing to do with this problem, since there very likely is a switching power supply and charge controller between the raw USB power input and the internal batteries of the phone. S= o as long as you can produce a voltage within the normal USB range, the phone should take care of the rest. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .