College is a fountain of knowledge where students go to drink.

Kerry


Olin Lathrop wrote:
> cdb wrote:
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>> So suddenly, I wasn't good enough to do the job that I had been
>> doing, and they had certificated me for.
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>
> No, most likely you weren't good enough before, and this was a easy excus=
e
> to get rid of you.  Employers are very very rarely going to tell you the
> real reason they dump you.  There is no upside to it for them.
>
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>> Judge each person on their
>> actual merits not what you perceive the persons merits to be.
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>
> Sure, in a perfect world when time to research each applicant is availabl=
e.
> However, especially in the current economy where every bozo sends out 100
> applications since they have little to loose, employers end up with a lar=
ge
> stack of resumes for each position.  Especially at big companies, the hir=
ing
> managers don't have time or it's too expensive for them to weed thru the =
100
> resumes.  The resumes get dumped on a low lever HR person who is given a
> minimum set of requirements.  If it says BS degree is required, then it's
> real easy for them to ditch the resumes of the applicants that don't even
> have BS degrees.  That's how the real world works.  It may not be perfect=
,
> but there is some sense to it all.
>
> I agree that actual experience becomes more relevant than a degree as you
> get more working years behind you.  However, a degree still means somethi=
ng.
> It's not about the extra education necessarily, but about your character.=
  A
> degree means you were willing to do some up front investing, to tolerate
> some pain for eventual gain.  This is quite relevant for engineering wher=
e
> you have to read manuals and understand the technology befure jumping int=
o a
> design.  It also means you weren't a truck driver or auto mechanic that w=
oke
> up one day and decided engineering would be a good gig.  Jumping right in=
to
> a trade from highschool means you didn't think you were that smart, which
> make me wonder why I'm supposed to think you're that smart.  I do know on=
e
> person who did make this transition successfully and became a good engine=
er,
> but that is rare.  He realized one day he really was smart enough, and th=
en
> went and got a BS EE.  Without that degree nobody would have taken him
> seriously, for good reason.
>
> Experience also teaches different things from formal education.  From
> experience you can learn how to get things done and how to react in certa=
in
> situations.  It does not teach the theory that is so important in
> engineering.  Experience is sortof like learning from examples only.  Tha=
t
> can be useful, but isn't the whole picture.
>
>
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