peter green wrote: > Personally I suspect he just got a bad batch. While GP are cheap and > generally provide good boards I think thier quality control may leave > something to be desired. I know someone at uni got a four layer board > from them supposedly electrically tested but that turned out to have a > load of bad vias on it. Interesting you should mention that. We built 10 prototypes for a customer using Gold Phoenix 4-layer boards. These are supposedly electrically teste= d by default. We gave the customer several of these prototypes that we had individually bench tested here. Yesterday the customer brought one back where a particular feature didn't work. We traced it down to a bad via. Making the connection by soldering down some thin wire fixed the problem. This board did work originally, and was supposedly electrically tested at Gold Phoenix. Apparently the via was marginal, and opened up after a littl= e handling. This is the first time in a bunch of years and dozens of different boards I've seen this problem from Gold Phoenix, except one time I accidentally forgot to check off electrical testing on a two layer board. Is Gold Phoenix going downhill? Do we need to look for another place to ge= t all our prototypes done? ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .