:: My $0.02 in the USA if you apply at a company with more than :: 50 people these days you will NOT get through HR without a :: degree I have a bee in my bonnet about this (I suppose the majority here would=20 have a bee in their hood), in my experience just because someone has a=20 degree doesn't necessarily mean they are a brilliant person when at the=20 coalface. Therefore depending on what the position is people with 'real=20 world' experience (that term is probably now copyrighted by Griffith=20 University here in Qld), can have as much or more knowledge than someone=20 just out of university. Case in point. Two years ago I worked for a small company that was an agent for high end=20 medical diagnostic equipment - my role was to install, repair, train and=20 troubleshoot hardware and software problems. I went on all the company's=20 courses in California, got all their certificates and as the company was=20 only about 50-60 strong knew the directors and sales managers. The company I worked for (a 3 man band) decided to shut up shop and the=20 owner became the sole representative of this company - with me now being=20 employed by this company to do exactly the same work covering the AUS,NZ,=20 Singapore and possibly Honk Kong region. What happened? The Sales Director= =20 rang up to give me a phone interview and told me I wasn't acceptable=20 because I didn't have a US university degree, just a City and Guilds UK and= =20 a Tafe Engineering here in Australia. So suddenly, I wasn't good enough to do the job that I had been doing, and= =20 they had certificated me for. Strangely (to me) universities here often advertise jobs as - with degrees= =20 of whatever discipline or equivalent knowledge or experience. Whic seems to= =20 me to be the way to go. Judge each person on their actual merits not what=20 you perceive the persons merits to be. Colin -- cdb, colin@btech-online.co.uk on 2/12/2010 =20 Web presence: www.btech-online.co.uk =20 =20 Hosted by: www.justhost.com.au =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .