RussellMc wrote: >>> Equating CEM-3 and FR4 is not encouraging as the two are fundamentally >>> different in layup PLUS use different chemistry resins. >>> I posted a longish post a few months back covering matters related to >>> different PCB materials and characteristics. It included some reference= s and >>> may be worth looking at. I've just reposted it under subject line Re: [= EE]; >>> PCB Materials (was Parallel passives and sprinkled vias?) >>> =20 >> Everything I've seen, dozens of boards from Gold Phoenix in the last >> couple years has been what appears to be real FR-4. >> I've not noticed any copper pull-up problems on boards that are gently >> reworked a couple times. When you start getting into higher >> temperatures, larger parts, larger holes, there are always issues with >> reworking too much. >> =20 > > Good to hear re GP. > Interestingly, he notes that PCB's from Eurocircuits do not have the > same problem. > Murphy says that there may be relevant missing information but it does > sound from what's said that E' do something differently. > =20 Personally I suspect he just got a bad batch. While GP are cheap and=20 generally provide good boards I think thier quality control may leave=20 something to be desired. I know someone at uni got a four layer board=20 from them supposedly electrically tested but that turned out to have a=20 load of bad vias on it. > > Russell > =20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .