Bob, Kudo's for you stepping in and taking control of the situation. And for knowing what to do in this=20 situation. My former employer's both had Medical Emergency Training including Mouth to Mouth=20 Rescusitation, CPR, and First Aid. Many employees took the training classes. As far as I know, none=20 of them have had to use it yet. But, better to know it and not need it than the other way around.=20 And I'm sure Steve (or what ever his real name is) appreciates you knowing what to do, and will be=20 ever grateful for your actions. This is an obviously good example of people helping people in need. I say good show Bob, especially knowing the outcome, and keep up the good work. =20 Regards, Jim > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [OT] Is using USPS ethical? was:Paranoid or just a > coincidence? > From: "Bob Blick" > Date: Mon, November 29, 2010 11:24 am > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." >=20 >=20 > On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 09:38:07 -0500, "Alexandros Nipirakis" said: >=20 > > Since my opinion adds nothing to the conversation (RE: how moral is > > the postal service, how good is it for the government to regulate > > price gouging) I won't say my opinion (and besides, others have > > already expressed it so it would be redundant at this point). I think > > the only relevant thing I can bring to the table is that this is (in > > my opinion) clearly political, and I think you really have to look > > past a good deal of the conversation not to find the politics in here. > >=20 > > In the US, there are two theories, one that says the government can > > and should provide certain services, the other that says the > > government cannot and should not provide certain services. The debate > > is clearly partisan between left and right, and even if you are not in > > the US, the debate is essentially the same everywhere. I trust that > > all those involved know that what they were posting was political, and > > they are also able to predict the obvious consequence of such an > > action. > >=20 > > I think that people on this list already get up in arms enough about > > issues having nothing (or little) to do with politics without > > interjecting core (and largely subjective) conversations onto the > > list. I feel that if this is what the list is to become, it will > > become boring for most people that actually follow the list. > >=20 > > With that said, I think that the admins have the ultimate right to > > decide what is and is not allowable. >=20 > Excellent summation of my feelings, and better than anything=20 > I could have written. >=20 > But I can share something that may help some of you understand why I may > seem more sensitive than others. >=20 > Earlier this year I helped save a man's life. One of the other tenants > where I work burst into my office and said "come quick, Steve's hurt > bad"(His name isn't really Steve). He was laying dead of a heart attack > just inside the large courtyard of the business complex my office is in. > I gave Steve CPR while my neighbor called emergency services(911). About > six or seven minutes later a fire truck with paramedics showed up and > took over. A few minutes after that an ambulance came. They gave Steve a > hypodermic in the chest and also jolts of electricity and got his heart > going and off they went to the hospital where he spent three weeks in > intensive care and another two in the cardiac center after having an > implanted defibrillator. He's doing fine now and scheduled for a bypass > operation soon. Steve is a small business owner and in today's economy > has lots of debt and almost no income and has no health insurance. But > he has gone through the paperwork to be declared indigent and his > medical bills are going to be paid by the state. >=20 > If any of the Vitaliy's social or economic policies had been in place, > Steve would be dead today. Either there would be no emergency phone > number, the firemen wouldn't have been trained paramedics or would have > refused to come, the ambulance wouldn't pick him up because he had no > means to pay, the hospital would have refused him, he wouldn't have > gotten the defibrillator, or he would have committed suicide because of > the $729,000 final medical bill(yes, I saw it, it really was $729,000). >=20 > So I don't want to hear about Libertarian politics. My friend is alive > today, and they'd have him dead. >=20 > Thanks for listening. >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > Bob >=20 > --=20 > http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service >=20 > --=20 > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .