On 29/11/2010 05:21, RussellMc wrote:
>> As long as I was invited:
> You were / are.
>
> I'm an admin fwiw. So is Bob.
>
> Just to add perspective.
> We both protect the integrity of the PIC and EE tags for thir intended
> purposes 'to the death".
> TECH is "my baby" and Bob doesn't have too much to say about it.
> OT started off being mainly my area [OT][TECH][EE] ...
> with Bob more responsible fro the other end [PIC][EE][Te...]
> but he has increasingly seen fit to stray into OT of late.
> His choice. But not generally a really great idea IMHO. He , of course,
> disagrees.
> OT has been much discussed in the part.
> Aim is ANYTHING not otherwise covered that is of interest to members but =
NO
> religion (a wide term), hate or politics.
> Alas Vitaliy is a libertarian (he'll tell you) and Bob hates libertarians
> (he's told us) and/or thinks they are stupid. Vitaliy is more cautious wi=
th
> his language towards Bob but the traffic both ways is overly heated often=
.. A
> rational interchange between B&V for more than a few exchanges seems
> impossible.
> I'm in NZ so immune to US politics. But, as Bob said, less able to see wh=
at
> may wind others up. (Not unable to see - I know what does - it just makes
> sense from down here). Alas though the one by most the wound up by V is B=
..
> Others may object to what V says, and any member is free to complain to
> admins on or off list, but largely its the B&V show that predominates.
> I would like to see what works for most people that upsets few people as
> being OK with a few limits. Pure politics and pure religion are clear eno=
ugh
> limits.
> But Bob sees economics + V as politics and we are off. V does not help
> things by pushing boundaries and thinly veiling his politics.
> What fun we have.

To many outside US the "fear" of Socialism and it's cousins, Liberals,=20
Libertarians etc and sharp distinction between Democrats and Republicans=20
seems strange. Both parties seem very conservative, though with=20
different emphasis. I've been a few times to USA. What seem like huge=20
contradictions to me are apparently of no consequence in USA and vice=20
versa. I'm sure any examples would enrage some USA folks and have both=20
disagreements and head nodding outside USA. So I won't.

The oft claimed "individuality" and "freedom" of speech and "Free=20
market" of USA seem strange claim from outside as well.

So perhaps someone in USA is not the best to define Politics but someone=20
outside the USA is not the best to decide on what might lead to "boot=20
throwing" and "shooting" and perceived as politics in USA.

Maybe the In USA and non-USA Admins need to consult (off list) and post=20
an agreed text when wanting to reply to something deemed Political?


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