Thank you for your ideas. I have tried loopback with hyperterminal, and it works just fine. Huh? I = =20 got echoes of characters at 57600 baud. The PICDEM PIC18 Explorer Demonstration Board has both a standard 9 pin =20 RS-232 interface and the USB serial interface (USB B connector). There are two jumpters =20 that select the RxD and TxD for either interface to use. I wrote the firmware for the onboard PIC18F8722 to use the 9 pin RS-232 =20 interface. The firmware works very fine with the RS-232 interface. It works very =20 well at 57600 baud. I calculate a pulse train coming out of the PIC18F8722 TxD port (approx.) = =20 2.26 ms long. I measure with a scope approx 2.2 ms. The pulse trains occur once per =20 second. This is binary data being sent out of the PIC TxD port. This is strange. All of my PC software (a user interface) and my PIC =20 firmware works very well with the RS-232, not a single problem. The PIC18LF2450 works when you loop it back, i.e., connect its RxD to its = =20 TxD. Hyperterm proved this. But the PIC18LF2450 RxD does not like (work with) the TxD of the =20 PIC18F8722. I am getting signals from the PIC18F8722 TxD to the PIC18LF2450 RxD. My scope proves =20 that. I had tried a split configuration. I configured the PC software to use =20 USB COM4 for sending commands/data to the PIC18F8722 (thru the USB). I configured the PC =20 software to receive data from the PIC18F8722 via RS-232 COM1. The receiving of data from the = =20 RS-232 COM1 works fine, even when I connect the PIC18LF2450 RxD to the PIC18F8722 TxD. This = =20 checks if the PIC18F8722 is pulling down the line. It is not doing so. It just seems =20 that data from the PIC18F8722 is not being processed by the PIC18LF2450. This split setup =20 works fine also and sending commands to the PIC18F8722 via USB works fine. I do not have source code for the PIC18LF2450. It came preprogrammed by =20 Microchip. They have only provided the HEX file in the documentation files. I could debug, but I would have to debug maching language, not even =20 assembly. More ideas would be welcome. The USB serial interface uses the built-in =20 Windows communications class USB driver. This is what Device Manager tells me. Thanks everyone! Dena Meier --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .