The "slowly decreasing" statement reminds me of times when I thought I was connected to ground, but wasn't. So make sure that besides all the verifie= d grounds you also verify the ground to the scope and the power supply, and the debugger. Otherwise it kinda sounds like the supply voltage is sagging. You didn't say what you're debugging with, but the ICD's have a "power from target/power from debugger" choice. And don't ask me how I know, but the power has to actually be turned on. Putting in more capacitors gives it more opportunity to "charge up" off of stray supply sources and then work for a few milliseconds. I've never hurt an ICD, but I have sent PM3's back to the factory on two occasions for losing their ability to power the target. Barry ....When looking at the PGC and PGD data during a connect, it seems like > there is some > capacitance between the signal lines and ground. Both the clock and data > signals > slowly decrease in voltage magnitude throughout an attempted > connection/program > operation to the PIC. I added decoupling capacitors between power and > ground, which > temporarily fixed the problem.... > --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .