James, I would tend to agree with Olin here in this case. I too have used the simulator to debug and develop code=20 for various projects. I have a PICKIT 2 as well as an ICD2, but I use the simulator most of the time. =20 I seldom use the hardware mentioned above. When I simulate the code I have written, I usually use the manual pin stimulation mode and select the toggle function for inputs.=20 YMMV. It depends on what you want to test and how closely you can match the simulator inputs with actual inputs that will ultimately be=20 used in the actual product. But for simplicity and expediency, in my book, the simulator can't be beat. Regards, Jim > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [PIC] pickit2 unreliable debug 12F675 > From: "Olin Lathrop" > Date: Tue, November 16, 2010 8:16 am > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." >=20 >=20 > James Newton wrote: > > Anyone used a PICKit2 to debug a 12F675? >=20 > As I said before, ask yourself whether you really need this. The simulat= or > is a much nicer debugger than the PICKit2 as long as you can simulate the > inputs well enough. What inputs does this chip receive? >=20 > Seriously, you might get your project running quicker if you ditched the > PICKit2 and spent the time instead setting up simulation of whatever inpu= ts > you need. On such a simple chip, manually changing a input pin or feedin= g a > value into the A/D might be good enough. I've done this a bunch of times= .. >=20 >=20 > ******************************************************************** > Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products > (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. > --=20 > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .