> A cute trick I've seen is to use just a stepper motor. When the user > turns it you get pulses out the windings, and it can act like a shaft > encoder without the zero reference. Of course it's a motor, so you > can make the shaft move electronically too. It can be done, but it's > not trivial and will take some development That would work. I wrote it up for PIClist last year http://www.piclist.com/techref/io/sensor/pos/enc/stepper_as_encoder.htm That particular implementation was incorporated into a reasonably low-tech tracking device and worked well I do have enough steppers, and have seriously considered it. Also magnetic or optical encoders. But you'll appreciate when you have a cheap pot and a cheap motor, it is tempting to put them together to make a new useful component > How long does it really have to last, and how many operations > before it's allowed to break? Well, I'm thinking perhaps more about the durability of the clutch material itself, and its natural degradation over time. eg rubber breaking down, plastic hardening etc. Number of shaft turns is a little hard to estimate but I'd say generally infrequent (at least for one application I have right now). Maybe I should look around here and see how various materials I know the approximate age of have fared over the years Joe * * ********** Quality PIC programmers http://www.embedinc.com/products/index.htm > > > ******************************************************************** > Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products > (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. > --=20 > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3232 - Release Date: 11/01/10=20 19:34:00 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .