On 06/11/2010 04:25, John Gardner wrote: > Enjoy... > > http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~moloney/AppComp/1999Entries/entry09.htm Maybe I'm missing something with this, but it seems the points made are=20 pretty obvious. Also, the proposed setup works differently from what (I=20 think) the student describes. The setup seems to just use the sail to=20 deflect the air in the appropriate direction needed for propulsion,=20 rather like a hovercraft or similar vehicle would. Also, the point=20 "Actually, the greatest effect is obtained by removing the sail=20 entirely!" seems the most obvious of all to me - this removes any=20 obstruction to the propulsion so of course it would.. The students proposition seems akin to standing on a cart and "shunting"=20 yourself along using changes of momentum, like the wind hitting the sail=20 in short blasts. Rather tired (05:58 here) and brain is overworked today so it's very=20 likely I have completely overlooked something here, sure someone will=20 put me straight if this is the case.. :-) --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .