On 01/11/2010 19:32, Carl Denk wrote: > I got a Gateway LT2114U with XP home from J& R mid June. No built in > optical drive, but for around $35 I got a 2 layer DVD with Lightscribe > USB drive. The nettop also came with 811N and Bluetooth. So if you have > a desktop available, that should enable data transfer at good rates, but > if the system crashes, you will need the USB drive to get it running > again. Remember to burn a set of restore discs and/or slipstream an > install disc while you are able. Checking a little while ago, I couldn't > find the same, or any with XP at J& R. >> Basically there are "larger Netbooks" that are laptops, but are netbooks >> because no optical drive, >> But with typically 160GB HDD, you can load ISO of CD and mount as letter >> see=20 http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/11/windows-xp-falls-under-60-ie8= -loses-share-for-the-first-time.ars Places selling Windows XP (not just Win7 with "upgrade" to XP) Argos is one of largest retailers in UK and Ireland http://www.argos.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?storeId=3D30001&catalo= gId=3D1500002451&langId=3D-1&searchTerms=3Dwindows+XP Not all the results have XP Overclockers (UK but ships to Ireland) is popular http://www.overclockers.co.uk/search_results.php?sortby=3D&groupid=3D959&se= arch=3DXP Maplin (UK and Ireland, online and highstreet stores) http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?criteria=3DXP four results Probably loads more. Those are just the first places I tried My Wife's 11.7" netbook/laptop bought last month is HP, with XP. Still=20 available. My son's netbook from Argos (=80220) picked up in City centre (no=20 shipping) is eMachines. Seems well built. There was a cheaper Acer LED backlit 1024 x 600 10.1" LCD, 1G RAM, XP home, 160Gbyte HDD, Atom=20 N450 CPU, WiFi, USB, VGA, Ethernet, mic & ear 3.5.mm Built in mic, speakers, camera Matt black. Was using 245M doing nothing and a bit slow. After removal of all=20 "shovel ware" inc all MS trialware and MS Live services, disable=20 unneeded services (CD Burner when no drive???) scrape of Norton, better=20 explorer and security settings etc and Foxit instead of Adobe PDF,=20 Thunderbird 2.x instead of Live mail, Open Office, Firefox (about 3 hrs). Now totally Zippy, and only 110M RAM in use. Has Silverlight and Flash,=20 incase, but "noscript" and "Flashblock" plug-ins on Firefox so user=20 whitelists. BTW I'm fairly sure you DO NOT need to have actual MS supplied media to=20 install XP, just either a valid licence for the box, or Windows 7 Ultimate. You can take an old XP CD, slip stream SATA drivers (because if the PC=20 has no IDE emulation mode or floppy drive, there is no other way) and=20 SP3 etc (free 3rd party tool rips ISO, slipstreams and makes ISO=20 http://www.nliteos.com/ ) and put that on a USB stick. All legal as long=20 as you have a valid licence key. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .