On 01/11/2010 22:48, Michael Watterson wrote: > On 01/11/2010 20:41, Oli Glaser wrote: >> On 01/11/2010 19:17, Michael Watterson wrote: >>> I haved use Eagle, JALedit, MPLAB, MS Office, Thunderbird, Firefox, >>> Foxit (pdfs) a 1600x1200 screen, sometimes an external 1600x1200 at sam= e >>> time >>> AADE, Spice and Scilab >> Fair enough, probably a few other random and complex factors involved in >> the differences. >> One thing pops to mind though - maybe I should have mentioned I have >> Norton 360 running too, which although good seems to eat a lot of >> resources. Out of interest, what anti virus are you using? >> > Training.... > Separate Firewall and disable all MS network services that run on top of > TCP/IP if not using a firewall > Up to date Foxit for PDF > Up to date Firefox > External HTML& Images disabled by default in Thunderbird > never open executable attachments or install toolbars on browsers > Zero pirate software or videos etc > Codecs only from official sites... > Un-needed and dodgy MS services off > file extensionson > No autorun of any kind on any device, ever... > Up to date MS patches. > Never use IE except for Windows Update > Never use Outlook > No file, telnet, printer or other hosting service running on anything > other than a server > no uPnP/ SSD (Hello I'm here install your malware disguised as Driver on = me) > No adhoc wifi > > Occasionally I use a root kit detectors (gmer isn't bad) and > silentrunners from www.silentrunners.org to verify cleanness. > > This approach has resulted in zero infections for nearly 20 years > on my PC and all the others here and also for people I have trained and > configured their windows... > DOS 3.3, DRDOS, MSDOS 6.22, win3.1 WFW3.11, 95, 98, NT3.51, NT4.0, > Win2K, XP, Vista, Win7 > > All the many computers I've cleaned malware from had AV installed and > running. Some up to date. > > AV causes problems, false positives, failure to boot, false sense of > security and is doomed to fail if users are determined to click install > when asked (eg offer to scan PC to speed up on web advert or offer to > install codec automatically on random web site). > > > Thanks for the info/advice. Will see how I go as regards a seperate=20 firewall etc - follow quite a bit of the above already, but not all (I=20 do use uPnP). All depends on how much time I have to do things "properly", never=20 enough time... :-) --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .