On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 06:46 -0500, Olin Lathrop wrote: > Peter Loron wrote: > > IE6 is, as others have mentioned, well past its sell-by date. It has > > numerous security issues, and is by far the least standards compliant > > browser still in significant use. Stupefying amounts of time are > > spent working around the broken standards support in > > > > Even if you don't care about the new features, updating to a more > > current version will help protect you from vulnerabilities that can > > be exploited to attack your computer. >=20 > Last time I looked at the next version of IE, it had some things I didn't > like. Can the various toolbars and stuff be stripped down like IE6 in th= e > attached picture? I never use those silly clickety-click tool bar icons = and > don't want them to waste pixels. If I remember right, IE7 always had > another bar there you couldn't get rid of. >=20 > Is there a simple reliable key sequence to put the cursor where you can t= ype > another URL? In IE6 CTRL-TAB does this, but it didn't always in IE7 if I > remember right. >=20 > It's these kind of usability issues that keep me from upgrading. I don't actually have a machine with Windows on it at the moment, but as I recall there is a great deal of flexibility in how you can configure the UI in IE8. I don't know about the CTRL-TAB shortcut. If you are interested in investing some time in researching other browser options, I suggest setting up a VM with VMware or VirtualBox (free) and then trying the various options without altering your "production" setup. I really like Chrome now as a general purpose browser. I very rarely run into a site that doesn't work properly there. > > Please update your browser. >=20 > This is not your call nor your business. Unfortunately it _is_ public business. Believe me, I don't like random people (or politicians) dictating things to me any better than you. However, computer security is an issue that has slid over the precipice into a public issue. End-users are either ignorant or reluctant to update when necessary, leaving their machines vulnerable to exploitation by any of the various criminal groups running botnets and the like. It is a situation where, literally, if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem. Mr. Lathrop, I deeply appreciate the knowledge and advice you bring to the list, and I am not writing this to be antagonistic. However it really is a very serious issue. Many people not in the software business are simply unaware of the magnitude of the problem. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .