On 01/11/2010 16:45, Olin Lathrop wrote: > alan.b.pearce@stfc.ac.uk wrote: >> Same when I started my apprenticeship in new Zealand, in 1969. They >> were still hand drawn 10 years later and PCBs laid out with real tape, >> although I suspect by then any large company in the USA would have had >> CAD systems for both functions. > Hewlett Packard in New Jersey didn't when I started there in 1980. I dre= w > schematics on D size vellum using pencil and eraser. These were eventual= ly > given to a board guy who would lay it out at 2.5x or 4x scale with > calibrated tape. That would get photographed in transparency mode to mak= e > the 1:1 mask films. > > They were getting in and testing a CAD system when I left there in 1982. > My last tape design was in 1981. I still have one prototype model of it,=20 a single Eurocard Z80 controller. From 1982 it was CAD For schematic capture stage "Futurenet" was really good, used it up to=20 about 1988 I use Eagle now. Used orcad, Autotrax, No1 systems and some other in the=20 past. I had a quicl look at kicad as it is "free" and they imported all=20 the Eagle libraries they could find.. But Eagle is kind of a standard, I have a paid version and anyone can=20 view/print/plot anysize board with the free download. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .