According to the man at uChip, the Hitech offering is to be withdrawn=20 (apart from the 16F incarnation) only the uChip bannered offering will=20 exist, with a price change and all products will have the same licence. The licencing is proposed to follow the Hitech model. Pay an up front price= =20 for the compiler, and then a yearly subscription price for continued=20 updates. Whether bug fixes are considered an up date he didn't say.=20 Neither was he clear on whether the initial compiler price would decrease=20 slightly with the anticipation of extra revenue via the subscription=20 scheme. The free versions will still exist but with no optimisation. Again he=20 wasn't clear on whether this was no optimisation at all or similar to the=20 current offering. Colin -- cdb, colin@btech-online.co.uk on 30/10/2010 =20 Web presence: www.btech-online.co.uk =20 =20 Hosted by: www.1and1.co.uk/?k_id=3D7988359 =20 =20 =20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .