> I've seen few Java applications that don't run at 1/100th the speed of > their previous (non Java) version. > Am I wrong? Are there good examples of large, complicated, Java > applications that run just as well as a natively compiled version? Look at the JMRI program suite, written in Java, runs across all OS platfor= ms. It is a large suite that has very few bugs, and appears to run at very = acceptable speed - it has to, it is doing real time things in that it is de= signed to control a model railway, so things have to happen in an appropria= te timescale. It is an open source project, with a reasonable size development team, and = a yahoo support group. See http://jmri.org/ for the download and information pages. The support gr= oup is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jmriusers/ --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .