Optical would have the same issue of not going through obstacles. Cheers, -Neil. Quoting Bob Blick : > Optical with triangulation works to some extent. This assumes you get > decent reflection. But so do any methods other than using a probe stick > :) > > Cheerful regards, > > Bob --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .