Okay, I finally got sick enough of Windows Live Mail to try something=20 else, namely Thunderbird. I actually quite liked it as far as MS stuff goes, but I was offered an=20 update a few days ago (to the whole Windows Live "Essentials" package=20 which tries to shove all sorts of rubbish onto your PC - search bars,=20 shopping aids etc etc) and decided to try it, just selecting the e-mail=20 update. To cut a long story short - they have decided in their infinite wisdom=20 to remove the "indent with >" feature in the plain text send options..=20 Why??? what harm was it doing to anyone? This inexplicable removal (with=20 no explanation on any forums I could find) of a feature that must be=20 used by most people on mailing lists was the last straw. So for anyone with Windows (Live) Mail (I gather there is actually a=20 difference between WM and WLM, what on earth was wrong with just leaving=20 Outlook or OE alone.. another rant right there..) you might want to=20 think about not updating unless you want to lose this simple and useful=20 feature. Maybe MS are trying to push us all into the online HTML=20 mail/blog world - I can't see any sane reason for deliberately removing=20 such a feature, maybe someone else has a better idea though.. Well anyway, TB seems pretty good from first experiences - far better=20 and more intuitive than WLM. I even managed to get most of my mail=20 across pretty painlessly which was a big surprise given the trouble I've=20 had in the past with OE, WM, WML mail formats/sharing.. Glad that's off my chest, can go back to wrestling with real EE problems=20 now.. none of this flimsy software rubbish.. :-) --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .