Success !!! I am a happy chappy. I have ssh tunneling on 443. The MobaSSH server was and still is behaving a bit strange. I can now access from work via ssh (without going thru vnc) camera adsl modem pic-maxi facebook vnc and a bonus ssh/linux type session on xp. Thanks to everyone who provided assistance. Matt's original suggestion to use ssh and suggesting I keep going got me on the right track. David I will look into dynamic SOCKS. Now I just have to get MobaSSH to start correctly after a reboot. Thanks again. The LIST has once again come thru. Cheers Justin --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .