On 18/10/2010 21:19, John Gardner wrote: >> a venturi pump - driven by an airline. > I've used such - They do work, and they do use a lot of air. > > Actually efficiency is much worse - Air compressors are not > adiabatic - Not mine, anyway. > > Jack I think for 0.5 atm a venturi driven by water tap might work! or a sealed bag with tap (that can join to bag and apparatus) and big=20 spring inside the bag open tap press down bag close tap release bag connect to small apparatus open tap. close tap when bag has stopped expanding remove bag from tap Or two taps. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .