The flashlights I use start erratically around 1 volt, & will shut off at about .9V. Whether this is deliberate I don't know, but the cells seem to tolerate it. I'm a fan of the Maha C9000 charger - Following their recommendations for cell maintenance seems to work. www.mahaenergy.com/download/mhc9000.pdf --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .